Comments on: URGENT – Sidewiki Can KILL Your Business http://stevewagenheim.com/blog/internet-marketing/urgent-sidewiki-can-kill-your-business.html Everything You'll Need To Run A Successful Home Business Tue, 12 Oct 2010 01:09:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Paul M http://stevewagenheim.com/blog/internet-marketing/urgent-sidewiki-can-kill-your-business.html/comment-page-1#comment-365 Paul M Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:37:58 +0000 http://stevewagenheim.com/blog/?p=2361#comment-365 I'm with you on this one Steven. The potential for abuse is massive and all the features to protect this from being abused are in one way or another flawed. The social voting system and algo on sidewiki could be gamed oh so easy. The admin comment only fill one of a few spots that will be visible to all our visitors – Visitors which we have exerted effort or/and monetary investment to gain. Yet Google still feels they have a right to hijack our traffic. The sidewiki report abuse button I don't like for two reasons: 1. What happens when Googles definition of abuse doesn't match ours? Google seems to have a narrow definition of abuse leaving us all open to potentially damaging unfounded comments. Comments wouldn't even need to be out right abusive. Merely putting doubts in a visitors mind could be enough to cause damage to ones business or reputation. 2. Unlike when we allow comments on our own sites and choose to be moderators. Google sidewiki could end up forcing us to become involuntary sidewiki moderators just to protect ourselves. Sidewiki gives a really easy way for spammers, competitors, and anyone else who wants to have a pop, to tarnish any website for any reason. There are plenty of other reason to hate this thing, the above are just a few. If anyone else is concerned about this, tell Google what you think at: http://www.google.com/support/toolbar/bin/request.py?contact_type=feedback -Paul I’m with you on this one Steven.

The potential for abuse is massive and all the features to protect this from being abused are in one way or another flawed.

The social voting system and algo on sidewiki could be gamed oh so easy.

The admin comment only fill one of a few spots that will be visible to all our visitors – Visitors which we have exerted effort or/and monetary investment to gain. Yet Google still feels they have a right to hijack our traffic.

The sidewiki report abuse button I don’t like for two reasons:

1. What happens when Googles definition of abuse doesn’t match ours? Google seems to have a narrow definition of abuse leaving us all open to potentially damaging unfounded comments. Comments wouldn’t even need to be out right abusive. Merely putting doubts in a visitors mind could be enough to cause damage to ones business or reputation.

2. Unlike when we allow comments on our own sites and choose to be moderators. Google sidewiki could end up forcing us to become involuntary sidewiki moderators just to protect ourselves.

Sidewiki gives a really easy way for spammers, competitors, and anyone else who wants to have a pop, to tarnish any website for any reason. There are plenty of other reason to hate this thing, the above are just a few.

If anyone else is concerned about this, tell Google what you think at: http://www.google.com/support/toolbar/bin/request.py?contact_type=feedback

-Paul

]]> By: admin http://stevewagenheim.com/blog/internet-marketing/urgent-sidewiki-can-kill-your-business.html/comment-page-1#comment-363 admin Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:19:26 +0000 http://stevewagenheim.com/blog/?p=2361#comment-363 I hear you Allen. I am 100% in agreement. I can't wait to see how Google handles the nightmare that they're in for. I hear you Allen. I am 100% in agreement.

I can’t wait to see how Google handles the nightmare that they’re in for.

]]> By: admin http://stevewagenheim.com/blog/internet-marketing/urgent-sidewiki-can-kill-your-business.html/comment-page-1#comment-362 admin Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:18:47 +0000 http://stevewagenheim.com/blog/?p=2361#comment-362 Sure, feel free to reprint this article Elisabeth. The more people who know, the better. Sure, feel free to reprint this article Elisabeth. The more people who know, the better.

]]> By: arthur http://stevewagenheim.com/blog/internet-marketing/urgent-sidewiki-can-kill-your-business.html/comment-page-1#comment-360 arthur Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:59:09 +0000 http://stevewagenheim.com/blog/?p=2361#comment-360 Yeah, very spooky this, I certainly wouldn't want anything posted on my site either without my permission Thanks Steve Yeah, very spooky this, I certainly wouldn’t want anything posted on my site either without my permission

Thanks Steve

]]> By: Elisabeth Kuhn http://stevewagenheim.com/blog/internet-marketing/urgent-sidewiki-can-kill-your-business.html/comment-page-1#comment-359 Elisabeth Kuhn Tue, 29 Sep 2009 05:06:53 +0000 http://stevewagenheim.com/blog/?p=2361#comment-359 I just read about that on the Warrior Forum. What a Trojan Horse that thing is! At first sight, it may look innocuous, but the potential for damage is huge! Which has clearly already been demonstrated. At the very least, anyone should be able to edit the side wikis that appear on their sites... Thanks for the article. Can we post it as a "guest post" on our blogs? I just read about that on the Warrior Forum. What a Trojan Horse that thing is! At first sight, it may look innocuous, but the potential for damage is huge! Which has clearly already been demonstrated.

At the very least, anyone should be able to edit the side wikis that appear on their sites…

Thanks for the article. Can we post it as a “guest post” on our blogs?

]]> By: Allen Farlow http://stevewagenheim.com/blog/internet-marketing/urgent-sidewiki-can-kill-your-business.html/comment-page-1#comment-358 Allen Farlow Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:14:01 +0000 http://stevewagenheim.com/blog/?p=2361#comment-358 This is appalling. If it is MY website, that I paid for, designed, uploaded, etc. it belongs to me, not Google or anyone else. They must have my permission to do anything on MY virtual real estate, not just come and go whenever they please or allow others the ability to do so. Hope Google likes their attorneys time being taken up with lawsuits because the lawsuits are coming. Let's all go over to Microsoft.com and leave remarks about their products and see how long it takes for Gates and crew to call their attorneys to look into this Sidewiki crap. This is appalling. If it is MY website, that I paid for, designed, uploaded, etc. it belongs to me, not Google or anyone else. They must have my permission to do anything on MY virtual real estate, not just come and go whenever they please or allow others the ability to do so.

Hope Google likes their attorneys time being taken up with lawsuits because the lawsuits are coming.

Let’s all go over to Microsoft.com and leave remarks about their products and see how long it takes for Gates and crew to call their attorneys to look into this Sidewiki crap.

]]> By: Aliakbar http://stevewagenheim.com/blog/internet-marketing/urgent-sidewiki-can-kill-your-business.html/comment-page-1#comment-357 Aliakbar Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:48:13 +0000 http://stevewagenheim.com/blog/?p=2361#comment-357 Google is always strange things! A few days ago I wrote an article about this tool, I introduce the advantages and disadvantages to the users in Persian language. http://akihon.com/134/google-sidewiki Google is always strange things!
A few days ago I wrote an article about this tool, I introduce the advantages and disadvantages to the users in Persian language.
http://akihon.com/134/google-sidewiki

]]> By: Jo de Jong http://stevewagenheim.com/blog/internet-marketing/urgent-sidewiki-can-kill-your-business.html/comment-page-1#comment-356 Jo de Jong Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:11:59 +0000 http://stevewagenheim.com/blog/?p=2361#comment-356 Good, bad, or indifferent, I don't want anyone posting UNMONITORED anything to my site. Thanks for the alert. Good, bad, or indifferent, I don’t want anyone posting UNMONITORED anything to my site. Thanks for the alert.

]]> By: Joe Eitel http://stevewagenheim.com/blog/internet-marketing/urgent-sidewiki-can-kill-your-business.html/comment-page-1#comment-355 Joe Eitel Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:52:32 +0000 http://stevewagenheim.com/blog/?p=2361#comment-355 Yeah, I read about this earlier today Steven, and it definitely freaks me out a little! I'm sure that there will be a huge backlash amongst webmasters who care about the content that appears on their site (i.e. ME!). We'll see what happens in the coming weeks... Joe Eitel Yeah, I read about this earlier today Steven, and it definitely freaks me out a little! I’m sure that there will be a huge backlash amongst webmasters who care about the content that appears on their site (i.e. ME!). We’ll see what happens in the coming weeks…

Joe Eitel

]]> By: Chris http://stevewagenheim.com/blog/internet-marketing/urgent-sidewiki-can-kill-your-business.html/comment-page-1#comment-354 Chris Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:57:05 +0000 http://stevewagenheim.com/blog/?p=2361#comment-354 HI Steve, This definitely could be a problem, but it sounds like this tool could also be helpful to add your own comments to your site. Sort of like blog comments would be done. I haven't seen the app, but I'm wondering if 'a site owner' who has it installed can also edit comments on his own site?? Probably not. Will have to look into this, sounds like it could be a good tool if used properly. The more open the market becomes the better I think. Take care, Chris HI Steve,

This definitely could be a problem, but it sounds like this tool could also be helpful to add your own comments to your site. Sort of like blog comments would be done. I haven’t seen the app, but I’m wondering if ‘a site owner’ who has it installed can also edit comments on his own site?? Probably not.

Will have to look into this, sounds like it could be a good tool if used properly. The more open the market becomes the better I think.

Take care,
Chris

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